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The 'political moment' for this was the early 's, a period in which the left in North America was quite large, and in which there was wide spread participation in social movements by young people in particular. Of course, the work that you did, some of which we are chqt to discuss today, was not simply a product of that political moment, but tornto also part of creating new forms of politics and gay organizing So I guess that's the place to start. I was raised in the white middle class suburban neighborhood of Don Mills and probably didn't have much of a political sense of the world until I was in high school.

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I read Fidel Castro and later Che Guevara. My parents took me on trips to Florida, where I remember listening to Radio Havana Cuba on the short wave radio. I began to identify as being anti-capitalist and left-wing. I recall writing letters to Radio Havana Cuba asking questions about their thoughts about the FLQ, waiting to see if it would be actually be answered on air 'cause they would regularly respond on air to people's letters.

I don't remember gay hook up site being answered. The first explicit chat engagement I had was in the fall of The War Measures Act had just been declared. One of my teachers said "what do these people in Quebec want"? I don't know what possessed me but I actually german cam girls up and said something, informed by what I had learned listening to Radio Havana Cuba and through my independent reading.

My impression was that my classmates and teacher thought that I was dating chat rooms odd. But I was beginning to be perceived as an intellectual and sort of eccentric. Shortly afterwards I, along with one of the other students at my school, participated in a Pollution Probe event. But most ificantly for me, I decided to attend an event at the University of Toronto, which was being organized by the Emergency Committee to Defend Quebec Political Prisoners.

It was also a very eventful meeting because the Edmund Burke Society a fore-runner of the Western Guard disrupted it, I think by spraying shagle random chat, resulting in Red Morning a largely youth-based radical organization that supported the Black Panther Party and the FLQ, that had grown out of the New Left and anti-war free eex and Communist Party of Canada -Marxist-Leninist the major Maoist organization in Canada at that point people beating the shit out of the Edmund Burke Society people.

This marked a transition for me, from being engaged intellectually and reading about these kinds of political differences, to actually seeing these differences played out. I bought a of political newspapers at this event, including Mass Line which was one of the publications of the Communist Party of Canada -Marxist-Leninist, which was filled with reference to their leader Hardial Bains. I also bought an issue of Young Socialist that had John Lennon and Yoko Ono on the cover and contained an interview with them.

I really wanted to get involved in some sort of organization and when comparing these two papers, I really didn't find Mass Line very interesting. Young Socialist, on the other hand, gay really interesting. In I became a member of the Young Socialists, without telling hook up chat line parents. I began going downtown to attend meetings, after growing up feeling like Don Mills was the whole world and never really going to other parts of the city.

It was a while before I learned that the John and Yoko issue that had really influenced my decision to the Young Socialists was really an aberration. It was part of a turn towards the youth radicalization that wasn't fully authorized by the central leadership. Ross Dowson, the central leader of the LSA at that time, was away in Naked 18 teen and things were actually fluctuating around in odd ways politically.

I became one of the Young Socialists' high school activists and began to do toronto bit of activism at my school. For example, I participated in organizing the Victoria Park Socialist student movement.

I was involved in organizing an event where students refused to attend classes in support of the teachers' work to rule campaign. We assembled and then marched to other schools. This occurred partially because some gay members of the LSA were working with some important activists in groups like Toronto Gay Action. And the first major gay rights demonstration in Canada occurred in August of Its more radical intentions emerged and it was voted out and became a distinct organization.

Several members of the LSA were involved, although TGA was a broader organization; it was a reflection of gay liberation style politics in the Toronto context. KINSMAN: Well, politics that were not assimilationist, for example it did not articulate its politics hot sex chat room "gay is just as good as straight".

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Instead slogans that were isexychat app used were things like "Smash heterosexual imperialism". This expressed the notion that gay liberation was a revolutionary movement that had some video games chat avenue to the women's liberation movement. It had links with feminism and anti-racism and youth movements It had some critique tofonto capitalist society, had some major radical impulse behind it, was often organized in a new left fashion, was not organized in hierarchal ways.

It was not wedded to a gag approach or tactic to achieving liberation.

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It also promoted the notion that gay sexual politics was not males cam about a minority sexuality but was about sexual possibilities for everyone, in gay best hindi porn site subverting the distinction between homosexual and heterosexual. They would organize gay contingents in anti-war demonstrations, gau have speakers at a range of political events.

So through being a member of the Young Socialists I became aware that there was something called the gay movement. As for my own sexuality, obviously I was going through things at this time, although my first articulation of my own sexuality lesbian party line that I chat there were things in both women and bisexual women chat line that I was attracted to.

Although I must say that torojto sexual play that I had engaged in when I was much younger was almost all entirely fay with boys, or at least I found that more interesting. So when I actually came adult s&m contact with information about a gay liberation movement and learned that they were holding demonstrations, and that the Young Socialists, the organization that I was a part of, actually supported these actions, it had an impact on me.

I increasingly came to feel that I want to explore those possibilities. In the spring of two women friends at my high school invited me to a party at the home of a guy named Barry. Toronto the party ended, Barry asked me to stay over, and so we had a sexual encounter. That crystallized things for me. I did want gwy explore this further. I had fun and I was okay with the experience.

The first issue of The Body Politic had been produced specifically for the August demonstration in Ottawa. I intentionally decided that I would try to attract the speaker's interest, and it did work. Once my sexual interests became known I was also approached by some of the older male members of the LSA, and I developed a somewhat longer term relationship with one of them.

I was still a high school student throughout all of this, living at home in Don Mills, and had some pretty severe constraints placed upon me.

live video chat sites My parents by then knew that I was involved in the Young Socialists and they were having a difficult time with that, but they didn't know anything about my sexual involvements. So the left actually provided for me my first www chat contacts.

Then I began to politicize around gay activism too. I started to go to demonstrations. When the Young Socialists need to have a speaker for the Pride event inwhich were then held on the anniversary of the August 28th chat in Ottawa, someone suggested me. That was the first time I took on a political role in relationship to the gay liberation movement.

During this period, I was also becoming a political oppositionist within the Young Socialists. S, but this current was actually a minority in the Fourth International. The LSA and YSA majority had a position that if you organize people on a single issue, even at a level of lowest common denominator, gay long as you have people involved in mass actions somehow it will radicalize them.

I was no longer convinced that this really toronto, partly from my own experience in organizing. I began to realize that things were a little more complex than just having a popular issue and the lowest common denominator politics and arguing for mass action in that context.

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So I became closer to the dissidents within the Young Socialists and the Free chat org for Socialist Action, who were aligned with the European majority of the Frr sex International. This dissidence would chat to the formation of the Revolutionary Marxist Group. The majority, which was based in Europe, was identified with the work of Ernest Mandel Mandel was a leading figure gay the Fourth International from the s through to his death in That majority had an impact within the organizing going on in the context of the Canadian State.

Although the Young Socialists was a youth organization of the League for Socialist Action, we did not have membership rights in the League for Socialist Action because the youth organization served as the training ground. We had to apply for membership 321 teen chats the League for Socialist Action.

Eventually I did apply, but I was rejected because of my shift in position. I pointed out that Hitler had gigantic mass demonstrations and toronto did not lead to people actually radicalizing in a progressive political way. Anyway, I was already identified as a political dissident. I didn't get more involved in gay related politics at that point in time because I became much more involved in this political form of dissidence. For example, could you clarify the relation between some of horny chat sites tendencies and the organizations that they were a part of.

They basically critiqued the leadership for being too close to reformism, for being too legalistic, for supporting single issue mass action strategies that the tendency believed really didn't work, and for taking the organization in directions that were not girls having sex in shower enough. Those were sort of the bases upon which political differentiation was made. It wasn't always concrete but, for instance, one thing that the tendency would have been clear on was that we opposed the destruction of a multi-issue women's liberation movement.

Although the ICT and RCT were quite strong in supporting the women's liberation movement, they opposed the LSA's attempts to convert the multi-issue women's liberation movement into a single issue, abortion rights campaign. Even though people in the ICT, who would later become part of the Revolutionary Marxist Group, were supposed to be anti-feminist, in practice their policies on women's liberation and feminism were actually much better.

So I became really involved in that current. BROCK: Can you to clarify the distinction that you are making between the women's liberation movement and feminism? It was quickly surpassed when, of course, it became clear that this distinction really didn't work. On a theoretical level the RMG initially had an incredibly sxe chat approach towards feminism.

Basically, that feminism is a bourgeois ideology that divides the working class; however, we should fully support the struggle for women's liberation. As people became more involved it was clear that this distinction was no longer tenable. Clearly feminism was the word that was being used by the people who were involved in the women's liberation movement, and it can be articulated in ways that linked gender struggles to dirty talk app struggles, and so on.

There was a pamphlet produced on women's liberation that was probably the most profound thing that anyone, any organization on the left had yet said about these issues.